This looks really interesting. You said you didn’t follow all the directions, but I don’t think you followed any of them. Next morning it was hard. As for year-round feeding of sugar, I find that honey bees simply stop eating hard sugar when there is nectar to be found. After it sets up overnight, I remove the cups and install on my hive. So the next year I made it into a winter feeding board using 1″x1″ scrap wood. This will be my third winter using them, and they give me peace of mind. Worked perfectly. If I find the nails pull out from the weight of the sugar, I will go back to using screws, but so far, so good. All that said, is there a downside to just feeding candy boards anyway? What would you do? Thank you so much for answering all my questions. Maybe next year I’ll get more organized but this should get us thru this winter. I don’t know if it would act differently with regular sugar, but you can experiment. Then, if they store it, they need to drive that water back out again. The non-native European Honey Bee is the state insect of: Not one native bee is a state insect. In my climate a 4# bag of sugar is plenty. I have three hives in my backyard and two of them seem to be strong and healthy with plenty of honey going into the winter. Being near the lake limits my bees forage and they did not create a honey super although they have lots of honey within the brood boxes. I think I remember reading on your site, possibly in the comments to one of your posts, that you were switching to the “Mountain Camp” dry sugar style of feeding. It continues to work for me, too. Using hardware cloth with very small spacing (basically what you would find in a screen window) for the moisture quilts. Good thinking! I’m a newbee, have a long hive, using Vivaldi feeders. Without knowing your climate, I have no idea. The closest relative of a North American native bee to make the list is the Tarantula Hawk Wasp, the state insect of New Mexico. If you want to return your product within 365 days we will takeit back. . Then the next layer becomes exposed and the same thing happens. I wanted a no-cook candy board for several reasons. have you experienced any robbing/pests/ant infestations with having an upper entrance so close to the candy board? So stuff beneath the combs is not in the right place. But hard sugar requires moisture to be deposited on its surface in order for the bees to eat it. HoneyMoney is the only tool specifically designed to help people save more money. I haven’t liked the sugar bricks previously, because when I checked on them the sugar had dissolved (in bottom of hive) and I had a wet, cold syrupy mess. 😀 –sarah. I like the addition of protein patties since the invertase that the bees use for inverting the sugar is a protein that must be metabolized from a protein source. The large cluster is connected to the food by a narrow path which the retrievers are using. There are other ways. Thanks so much for the info and insight Rusty! I always hear stories that honey bees will not go through plastic excluders, so after a few minutes, I lifted the quilt for a quick peek. Thank you sincerely for the great website and all the advice. You can enter transactions on the go with the mobile web-app (PWA): Hello, my name is Ildar , I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada . Also, do I understand correctly that the shim and candy go above the top-most box of capped honey? Good point. Your blog and website is a favorite of mine. Also, should I be putting the pile of sugar in this month or wait? Although they may seem small and insignificant, pollinators are vital to anyone who eats. Thank you for putting together and maintaining this very informative website. I have a southern package of Italians in four mediums with two full mediums of capped honey (approx. Often you will hear three or four different pieces of advice, and one may feel really right and another may feel really wrong. Made my planned couple of bricks, plus several muffin cups in parchment papers. But Aram, the hard candy method goes back to doing the two things I didn’t want to do: cooking and inverting the board. Then one day I decided I was being conclusory and so I tried using them for these no-cook candy boards. I can tackle winter feeding for the weaker colony sooner and differently than with the ones which I feel more confident about. Will bees store fondant? I am so enthusiastic about the uncooked candy board setup using the plastic queen excluder as the bottom of an eke which is placed above the top brood box. Is fondant necessarily made by boiling sugar? I hope the later works and may provide them with an extra boost. (No, I didn’t measure the wood; it was just a random piece I found under the saw table.) This shim has the added benefit of providing some space between the candy board and the brood frames, in case the candy board sags in the middle. In this example, I didn’t use plastic excluders for years because of all the “bad press” I heard about them. Last week it was sunny and calm so I decided to check on them to see if any bees were eating the sugar. Once I put insulation under my cover, I’ve not had condensation in the hive. A winter hive is full of moisture from respiration which makes the sugar palatable. I might work just fine. As I explain in other parts of this site, my job is not to tell a beekeeper “you should do it this way.” My job is to offer alternatives, to describe ways that some people found helpful, and when I know the science behind something, I try to explain it. Have a good day. Every candy board design I saw had a hole somewhere, either for an upper entrance or ventilation or both. (Unfortunately, it’s sort of our thing to take on more than we’re prepared to handle, most times it helps us learn quicker… there’s no choice!!!) Yes, bee space. This causes a thin layer of the brick to dissolve and provide edible food. If its to bothersome I can take my questions and interest in your page elsewhere. Ventilation holes should be as high as possible if you are trying to expel moist air. It would be very interesting to put a cheap moisture and temperature sensor on the top of the frames before and after to see the effect. In addition, bees tend to move up, not down, in an overwintering hive because the lower portion is the colder portion. Not at first, but as time goes by. Can I use metal queen excluders in place of the plastic. Has anyone made a candy board out of a medium frame and insert it into the colony near the cluster? You can also start with simple tracking, planning will come later. I just placed candy boards on my hives a couple of days ago. The feeder rims I used are plenty deep, and I think they could hold 25 pounds, depending on what you need in your area. Happy Thanksgiving. Regarding your response to Melissa Johnson’s September 14 question as well as a response to an earlier question of mine on top bar ventilation – do you have a slight separation between your top bars so that moisture can rise above and condense on a sugar brick? Our temps were dropping into the 20s overnight, so I went ahead and made no-cook candy boards and placed them two days ago under their new quilt boxes (which work great!). I use an Imirie shim and prefer it below the candy board because the candy sags a bit in the center. Thanks again. I took two bars out (of about 23) and then spaced the rest. This product belongs in the failed product extension bin and should be removed for sale. Looks like a winter to be extra vigilant on monitoring their food so as not to lose any to simple starvation! I decided to add the pollen supplement (as others have recommended) so that as spring approaches the bees will have an ample supply for brood rearing. I made HoneyMoney because I didn't like any other options on the market. I used about 1/4 more water than you suggested, and also tamped them down with quite a bit of force. 😀 Anyway, have a couple questions about the candy board…. Thanks. I’ve used your suggestion for the past three years, I’ve been keeping bees for about 7 years, at first I had two or three hives and each year I lost all my hives. Thank you. Don’t worry about it too much. HoneyMoney is not about escaping from living "Paycheck-To-Paycheck". It worked great and was so easy to do. A modification on your feeding plan that wouldn’t require building anything is what I do. Hi Rusty. How would you do that without heat? I’ll be curious to hear how they work out for folks. I’m sorry you found my advice offensive, but it’s at the core of what I believe about beekeeping. It also absorbs moisture from the cover. The instructions for moisture quilts are here: How to make a moisture quilt for a Langstroth hive. That said, if I needed to feed that many bees in a big hurry, I would go buy those four-pound bags of sugar they sell at the grocery stores, lay one across the top bars directly over the cluster, slit the bag open across the top with a knife, surround it with a shallow super, and add the lid. And yes, they will leave honey in place in order to go up and get the sugar. Honey Bee Suite is dedicated to honey bees, beekeeping, wild bees, other pollinators, and pollination ecology. Thanks for the post, I will share it on my Facebook pages and groups. If you are making a switch, I would be interested in hearing the reasoning behind the decision to do so. Down here I get it at Cash ‘n Carry, which is a restaurant supply store. Thank you for the photos that really helped. Also, do you insulate the under part of the top cover? Or do you check throughout the winter and sometimes replace candy boards? We are in zone 5a in north-central part of Ohio. Thanks for your post on no-cook-candy-board. Don’t have a lot of knowledge yet but I am learning. Personally, I don’t want anything between my brood box and my quilt box, although I’ve resigned myself to the candy board being there in the years when I use one. Honey bees will often carry out sugar granules as if they were trash. Are you still employing this method, are you switching to the no-cook candy board, a little of both, or am I completely mistaken from the get go? I tailored it to my needs, and with time it became a small, but profitable business. Do you thnk it would be ok to put a diluted essential oil mixture in/on the candy board mix to help prevent Nosema, etc? Within a couple of hours I had the same problems as Aram – “craps” thru the middle and lots of brittle crumbles. If a colony is small, I give them a board with pollen much earlier. Most recommended tiny holes that I thought wouldn’t do much good, and most had to be shielded from the candy that might block them. How will the bees get through the tiny holes? So, this may be a good time to talk with your honey about moving some money into bank accounts for peace of mind; that topic was one dinner discussion Cliff and I had during a recent money date. Thanks for this informative post. Guess that’s because I laid them on floor in hive? You can add it any time. Should I use smoke in the winter? Thanks so much for your great advice. . At one time many people thought wintergreen had a measurable effect on varroa mites, but I don’t think the theory has proven to be true. Watch XXXPAWN - Thick Babe Nina Kayy Makes That Pawn Shop Money, Honey! This recipe may be my bees lifesaver. Looks good, Rusty. But I’ve never tried it and I could be wrong. Once the winter hits, I don’t see ants or other pests around the hive; that’s mostly a warm-weather problem. By next morning the thing was hard as a rock. They are easy to make, the bees love them, and any leftover candy can be reused or dissolved into syrup for spring. As first-year keepers, we are planning to make these for our five hives. Tough opening a hive and finding swarm cells when the weather report says 40sF and rain for the next 2 weeks. The quilt is the insulator that goes under the top cover. Today and yesterday I noticed crumbs of the candy board at the entrance of both hives. Wouldn’t the sugar board absorb most of the moisture already? I believe in the comments you said you put this no-cook-candy-board on in November. You are too funny. I suppose bees store fondant, although the whole process seems unnecessary. It is non-discriminatory, encompassing both honey bees and wild bees. I did not fasten them to the wooden feeder frame as the packed & hardened sugar held them in place while carefully carrying them and placing them on the hives. Can’t thank you enough for your tutelage and great How To articles in my first year! Come spring, most were still HEAVY with honey. . Actually, they did really well and bounded into spring with no problem. And if you don’t feel comfortable with this website, don’t use it either. And finally, yes, I find early pollen feeding to be detrimental to colony development. The winter bees had no problem getting through. Thanks for the breakdown of the different sugar feeds – most helpful and understandable! Even easier, you place a bag of sugar on the top bars. If the bars are packed closely together I wonder how the moisture would rise otherwise? Since the candy is above the bees, the warm moisture from their breath lands on it and condenses. So bear with me here. It only means that I don’t like it. This candy board in addition to the moisture quilt works wonders. Is there any danger of the bees going through the excluder and leaving the queen behind to freeze to death? You can see this with an infrared camera. It looks like I need to make some quilt boxes now to put on top of the candy boards. Yes, it’s been way too warm. I don’t think the gaps will allow lots of air flow, but if it worries you, you could wrap them with duct tape. And, I suppose, /why/ use wintergreen. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. These are the feeder frames that have a 3″ hole in the center where a plastic tray is placed so you can feed sugar syrup. Listen up folks. Learn how your comment data is processed. It would depend on the situation. Fingers crossed! It’s not scattered but piled up like they’re removing it. I use a rolling pin to compact the sugar firmly. But do whatever you want. Yes, I have a separation between my top bars. So when do the wintergreens come in? Rusty, I’m pretty bad at following instructions, too. A candy board made to place below a quilt could not be solid, obviously, because moist air from the colony could not be collected by the quilt if that air never reaches the quilt. It was hard to tell if they consumed some or any of the sugar. It sounds to me like the system is working perfectly. 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